
By Vincent Macauda, Esq
Commercial real estate professionals are split when it comes to the use of a “national” land survey firm versus a “local” surveyor. Some will only use national surveyors and others avoid them like the plague.
An analysis of this topic necessarily begins with a look at what a “national” land survey firm really is. Many of the firms that claim “national” status are merely survey brokers; meaning they offer one-stop shopping for land survey needs, then subcontract the assignments to local surveyors. So, while using a survey broker may save the professional the time and hassle of dealing with many different surveyors, it really is no different that using local surveyors for purposes of this analysis.
A “national” land survey firm is a company that employs professional land surveyors with licenses in many states, thus being able to deliver surveys in a majority, if not all, circumstances. Local surveyors limit their services to the area where they are located, usually a county or two.
*National land surveyors will argue that for the commercial real estate professional that orders many surveys a year, they are more: convenient, consistent, cost effective, transaction oriented, tech based and faster.
*The local surveyor will argue that they are more familiar with the property in their back yard and the customs and practices in the local government offices where the property is located.
In the commercial real estate transactions, the “gold standard” for land surveys is the ALTA/ACSM Land Title Survey, which underwent a major overhaul in 2011. A good way to compare how the commercial real estate professional will fare with a national survey firm vs. a local surveyor is to examine the how both will deal with the ALTA Standards and how their technics may differ. Here are some examples:
Example 1: Your preliminary survey is done but your lender is requesting that ALTA Table A Item 19 be added to the survey (Location of wetlands by appropriate authorities).
National Survey Firm: Requests a copy of the Phase I Environmental Report, which states no wetlands exists, and certifies to Table A Item 19 with a note that per the environmental consultant, no wetlands exist at the property.
Local Surveyor #1: Refuses to certify to Table A Item 19 because the Phase I Environmental Report states that no wetlands exist. Your lender is not happy because they wanted the item certified on the survey, but the surveyor refuses believing he will be exposed to liability.
Local Surveyor #2: Wants you to pay him $1,500 to have his geologist walk the property to determine the existence or non existence of wetlands, and if wetlands are found, another $1,000 to delineate the area on the survey.
In this example we see how local surveyors can have inconsistent interpretations of what is needed to comply with typical lender driven specifications. It also exemplifies how cost inefficient the process can be. The national firm makes a living day in and day out in the commercial real estate transactional world and is familiar with these requests. The local surveyor may only do a few ALTA Surveys a year, spending the rest of the time with plats, subdivisions, construction staking or mortgage location surveys.
Example 2: ALTA Table A Item 6 regarding zoning is required but the title insurer refuses to provide zoning information.
National Survey Firm: Requests zoning classification and setback requirements from the municipality and certifies to Table A Item 6. No additional cost.
Local Surveyor #1: This surveyor was hired by a “National” Survey Coordination/Broker because he had performed the survey a few years ago. Any savings from his prior work was eaten up by the Broker’s fee. While the surveyor had previously shown a detailed Zoning Chart with the appropriate information, he took the chart off on this update because the revised 2011 ALTA standards state that the zoning information will be provided by the “insurer” and the title insurer has refused to provide it. Your attorney wants to talk to this surveyor to explain that the Table A items are negotiable and that everyone can agree that the surveyor will provide this information, but the Broker doesn’t want your attorney to talk to the local surveyor for fear that everyone will find out what the Broker is paying the local surveyor and how much of a “fee” was tacked on.
Local Surveyor #2: Wants you to buy a Zoning Report and Zoning Endorsement before complying.
Local Surveyor #3: Tells your attorney that local practice in his part of the country has the attorney looking up zoning information.
Example 3: Your client just decided to purchase the property with a HUD loan and the survey you ordered included ALTA Table A Item 11A, not 11B, which is a HUD requirement.
National Survey Firm: Requests the utility companies to mark the property by calling in a “dig ticket” and adds 11B for a reasonable additional fee.
Local Surveyor #1: Requests that the client provide utility plans showing the exact location of the utilities. Is told that no one has any such plans but doesn’t want to rely on dig ticket markings because he doesn’t feel they are accurate enough. Asks you to hire a private utility locator to mark the property, which will cost $3,500.
Local Surveyor #2: Is willing to rely on utility company markings but will not call in a “dig ticket” because no digging is occurring and thinks that he will be arrested by the dig ticket police. He calls the utility companies and asks them to mark the utilities for survey purposes and has a tentative date for that in the Spring of 2013, so you end up calling the National Survey Firm above and paying for another survey in order to meet your HUD deadline.
Example 4: Your deal just got fast tracked and you need to close in 3 weeks.
National Survey Firm: Provides you a quote in 12 hours, is on site and starts the job in a few days, completes the preliminary survey in one week but can’t deliver the final until the title company catches up and provides the title commitment. Title commitment comes in a few days before closing and the survey is revised to reflect the matters in title and a final survey is issued on time.
Local Surveyor #1: Requests that he be provided a copy of the title commitment and all schedule b documents disclosed therein before he can provide you a quote or start the survey. Is told that the title work will not be done until a few days before closing but says the ALTA Standards require that he be provided this information before he can begin work and since you need Table A Item 20, he can’t even provide you with a quote until he reviews the title work.
Local Surveyor #2: Since he did the survey a few years ago, you choose him. His price and turn around time is ideal. Unfortunately, he slips and falls at your property, has no one else in his office that can finish the survey and has no insurance and is planning on suing you.
Ok, so some of the above examples have been embellished a bit to make a point, and being the President of the only true national land survey firm, I’m a bit biased, but these examples are all based on true stories. The point being made is that although the argument that a local survey knows your property better and will be faster and cheaper is not necessarily true. Commercial real estate professionals that need convenient, consistent, cost effective, transaction oriented, professionals handling their land survey needs find that going national is the best approach. When we encounter issues that we believe can be worked out easier with the help of a local surveyor, we hire one even if it’s on our dime. We have learned that what our clients hate most is for us to ask them for additional fees for matters that they believe were covered by the original quote.
For questions about these topics or any other survey matters, please feel free to contact me at vmacauda@millmanland.com.